Continuity Errors

[cyclica]

Did anya really have that demon necklace thing in s6? I didn't remember seeing it, and I thought that was a cool bit of continuity - anya lost her powers the first time coz it was smashed, so when she got powers a second time she asked to have them in such a way that she doesn't need a necklace (or maybe she just swallowed it) so she wouldn't loose her powers so easily next time. And in selfless her powers were lost when d'hoffryn took them away directly, no need to smash a necklace there. And hallie always *did* have one, 'there will be no touching of the pendant!', coz hers was never smashed.

As for giles talking about anya's re-humanisation', he said 'you were *born* here'. Not 'you were made human here'.

[partcynic]

If we go on the Giles 'born here' quote, there's an obvious mess-up in Selfless (fair: most of that ep is questionable in terms of continuity). Or we could blame Tough Love, but seeing that Selfless was the contradiction, I think the fault goes there.

The amulet thing is frustrating as it was never adequately explained what happened when Anya was re-demonised. If Anya had lost her powers once from having a pendant smashed, you'd have thought D'Hoffryn would have gotten the other demons in his fold to shift their power centres too, in case their 'good work' was similarly undone. I'm pretty sure you can see Anya-with-necklace in Entropy; it just got ignored in Selfless as it introduced a logical out for the plot that prevented them from going for the Halfrek-killing option.

[gumdrop331]

After Giles says that Anya was born in America he says 'at least your human self' implying that he was making a reference to her rehuminization...or at least thats how it seems to me.

The pandent thing truly baffles me. there is no logical in-show explanation except that maybe she just hid it under clothes. but they wouldnt have done that had they thought it through...maybe they just forgot.

[cyclica]

I dunno if this really counts as an 'error', but at the end of Teachers Pet, they showed a whole bunch of mantis eggs, ready to hatch, but they were never seen again.

[partcynic]

It would have been cool if they'd referenced that in S7, would have gone well with the 'back to the beginning' theme.

[gumdrop331]

That's true. A little of the old non-big-bad evil. like the per-show evil. its like mini evil! there are a lot of other long-ago things they could have finished off. Like did Harmony and Dru actually die? i mean get dusted kind of die. I havent seen that ep in a long time...

[partcynic]

Do you mean Crush? I think that as far as we know, both Harmony and Dru are still active.

The show definitely needed more monster-of-the-week episodes in S6 and S7. For the most part, those years devoted all their time to 'arc' and spent 22 eps saying what could have been completely dealt with in about 7 or 8.

[cyclica]

Harmony appeared in the final episode of angel, and she was still alive (well, undead). Drucilla never appeared again after crush, except as flashbacks to the past or as the first pretending to be drucilla. I'm still hoping she's gonna appear in the spike movie.

I agree that seasons 6 and 7 needed more villain of the week episodes, especially season 7, its like once the story about The First started no other bad things ever happened. Except in the ep storyteller though; I loved how there was a lot of 'little evils' going on in the background, like that girl who became invisible like in season 1, and that guy who became stressed and exploded. Like there were things going on this whole time, but it was just never on screen. They would rather devote screen time to boring speeches than to cool high school stuff.

But I guess they couldn't have brought back the mantis because they would have to ask, where have the mantises been all this time?

[partcynic]

Maybe they'd been at the Hellmouth in Cleveland? I'm sure the writers could have been creative (ie pulled something out of somewhere).

[gumdrop331]

Yea, I loved Drucilla's character with the insanity. it was funny in a dark way. The Mantises would be a funny story. They really should have had more little monsters because you would think what with the first making an army the demons would be flocking in. and buffy should have dealt with D'Hoffrin more thoroughly...

[cyclica]

I would have loved to se buffy battling D'hoffryn, he was probably the most powerful demon on the show. He could teleport, turn people into demons, and he was older and more powerful than any vengance demon like anya, who were all very powerful themselves, capable of altering all history and completely changing the world. He would have made a better season long big bad than many of the ones we've had.

Its weird, in season 7 buffy is so determined to fight the first evil, supposedly the ultimate baddie, and yet in selfless she goes to attack d'hoffryn and he tells her not to, and she leaves him alone. Like she's gonna defeat the first who is the ancient cause of all evil that is within every person, but this one demon is so strong she won't even consider fighting him.

[gumdrop331]

Yea, i think D'Hoffryn was more of a threat than the majority of the demons she battles throughout the entire series. In theory, he could have made a universe where no evil existed (akthough he probably wouldnt have seeing as he himself is evil). That is true though, that Buffy wont even attempt to battle D'Hoffryn in Selfless. He just tells her she cant win and she beleives him. That isnt very Slayer-like. Yu would think she would have enough confidence in her abilities by then, I mean she is confident that she can defeat the First evil EVER, but not one simple demon?

[partcynic]

Well, Buffy didn't attack because D'Hoffryn reminded her he could teleport away. And considering he's been around for over a thousand years, he doesn't seem to have done much besides make a few vengeance demons. He's basically a glorified pimp! But again, the whole vengeance demon sect idea was something that they shouldn't have introduced. The original idea for Anya (that she was a girl who cast a demon-summoning spell that backfired) made more sense; it's tough enough to believe there's one being who could change the whole world, yet alone a whole group of them. I'm pretty glad they ignored D'Hoffryn, he was a loose end they couldn't tie up, and after all of the silly fuzzy demon stuff in Hell's Bells, he was impossible to buy as a big threat anyway.

[gumdrop331]

But he did become a nuisence. He was annoying and could theoretically be dangerous. I think they could also have gona back through the eps and find some demons/vamps that were looking for some vengeance themselves. There are many that got away, instead of being killed. I think that would have made the season more enjoyable and that the arc would have been more interesting if there was less repeating details throughout. Did anyone understand that?

[partcynic]

Yeah. I think they really should have stuck to the S2/S3 formula of having only 7-or-so arc eps, and having every single episode as an individual story. It would have provided a nice break, and they could have put in a whole lot more character development. When Same Time, Same Place first aired, I was really happy that they seemed to be back on track... but we all know how things turned out there.