Angel

[cyclica]

I think angelus must be exactly as intelligent as angel, I meant they are the same person, only one is evil, loosing a soul doesn't make you more or less intelligent.

But then again angelus wanted to open the mouth of akathla (sp?) and suck the world into hell, and that seems like a really stupid thing to do, I mean what would he have to gain from it?

[partcynic]

I think it would have been the ultimate destructive act for him, regardless of whether it was technically smart or not - and since he wouldn't have suffered from being in Hell (while Buffy et al would), I can see him getting off on that.

[cyclica]

How you know he won't suffer in hell? Thats what hell is there for!

[partcynic]

Because Angel had no humanity/goodness in him (as was pointed out in Innocence when the Judge couldn't burn him). Giles specified in Becoming 2 that all human life would undergo eternal torment.

[cyclica]

Giles could have left out the part where demons suffer too, because well why would buffy mind that? She'd be more concerned about what happens to humans. I always figured hell would be chaos, angel wouldn't get special treatment just because he's not a human, giles has said at one point that demons hate vampires. And I always thought the judge said angelus had no goodness in terms of intentions, in other words angelus had a totally evil personallity. He is still a vampire.